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MMBN1

Power plant crash

Lex — Today at 7:08 PM

so i've got a very weird and reproducible bug in MMBN1

in the postgame, when jacking into the power plant network, the game will crash and close every single time

Lex — Today at 7:33 PM

i'll leave this bug here for if anyone wants to look into it, as I'm ignoring it for now to progress the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097303874588655646/20230417_001044.mp4

jack out after v2 to encounter v3

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:35 AM

someone on reddit saying you don't have to jack out after beating a V2 in BN1 to encounter the V3?

MidniteW — Today at 8:37 AM

I don’t remember enough if that’s how it works in gba

playerzero — Today at 10:01 AM

That happened to me on stream

elem icons

K1rbYat1Na — Today at 2:08 PM

All LC versions of EXE1/BN1 (JP, EN and CN) use the element icons from EXE1. All EXE1 element icons are slightly different from BN1/EXE2/BN2.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097221948485927083/IMG_20230416_200534.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097221948720816281/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097221948955693261/image.png

bubbler virus hitbox glitch

MegaRockEXE — Today at 8:01 PM

Why does this happen and did it happen on GBA as well?

misc

MMBN2

gospel dupe

Dass — Yesterday at 11:23 AM

Alright, let's try if it works

ok beat gospel

I can't skip credits sadly

Dass — Yesterday at 11:31 AM

IT WORKS

Dass — Yesterday at 11:33 AM

proof https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096820700972585060/image.png

s license feet

Dass — Today at 7:32 PM

uhh

Gray Nine — Today at 7:32 PM

glad that's still there

I wonder if the ArmyData dialog glitch is still there too

luckytyphlosion — Today at 8:13 PM

what is this

Dass — Today at 8:15 PM

look at the green navi closely [ed. note: duplicated feet]

rom

GreigaMaster — Today at 9:41 PM

btw at least one of the modification made to the new exe2 rom is it starts you with a bunch of stuff like every chip and 12 power ups

Prof. 9 — Today at 9:41 PM

it's a debug rom?

real

1000 HP too

MMBN3

folderback pve fix

GreigaMaster — 04/13/2023 8:04 PM

idk then? its in the same video

https://youtu.be/-YIMB-tqdSQ?t=1968

luckytyphlosion — Yesterday at 8:50 PM

do we know if folderback is infinite in pvp?

Eurasia_M — Yesterday at 9:18 PM

they already confirmed its just one use


bn3 all stars icon

MidniteW — Today at 8:28 AM

Bn3 all stars icon is recreated using the original digital art https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097136488501756057/IMG_7673.jpg

Hard mode probably too but I don’t think we’ll be seeing that for a while lol

plantman comp I line

https://discord.com/channels/1094535050843934833/1094542261284511776/1097174523557728326

Prof. 9 — Today at 10:59 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097174523075375164/image.png todo check this line in BN3 during PlantMan comp

I'm pretty sure LC will render the エ as a blank space

cuz it's a katakana character that's not in the font lol

Alison𓆏 — Today at 11:36 AM

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2963224539 It does.

MMBN4

Footbomb L button glitch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097588751884091473/20230414131950_1.jpg

FootBug, the bug formerly known as Among Us Skip, works in the Legacy Collection. This is a bug in the English versions of BN4 caused by a jump to an invalid script in the L message in the Den Dome Stadium during the last part of the FootBomb Scenario. This can cause a crash.

Doing a hard reset and pressing L in Den Dome Stadium can crash the game.

Nation X

weenie — 04/14/2023 10:56 PM

they also renamed Nation Z to Nation X in bn4

Rea — 04/14/2023 10:56 PM

i think that might be a Russia/Ukraine thing?

Nation Z has...unfortunate connotations these days

weenie — 04/14/2023 10:56 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/132102389455912960/1096540209870540980/20230415035851_1.jpg

maybe it was a last minute russia-related change

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 10:56 PM

did they make jp nation x?

Rea — 04/14/2023 10:57 PM

okay yeah in the full context of the line

"Nation Z, the infamous military state" definitely has bad connotations given recent events

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 11:00 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096631073917632612/IMG_3309.png

yeah it's a change in jp too

Shademan Bats

GreigaMaster — Yesterday at 1:18 AM

me during the capcom tv stream

https://twitter.com/GreigaMaster/status/1571545828246065154

the data on release image

lowercase r records

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096692456118034512/image.png

Massage minigame is redrawn lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096694954501349437/image.png

Footbomb something fix

MidniteW — Yesterday at 12:28 PM

They fixed footbomb missing field hp by having it appear in the cutscene where you can decline to try again

MidniteW — Yesterday at 12:52 PM

Second one is fixed too

Roll chip synchro fix

MidniteW — Today at 11:02 AM

roll chip doesn't heal to full hp when full synchro anymore

chip trader megaman-less scenario

MidniteW — Today at 1:17 PM

im not gonna trade all chip but yeah burnman is how the chip trader megaman-less scenario can happen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097209267737596114/image.png

normalnavi alpha

MidniteW — Today at 2:24 PM

normnavi alpha 230 hp?

Prof. 9 — Today at 2:27 PM

hmm strange that it uses the NormlNavAlpha label

the naming is the same in the text archives

what is it in JP?

MidniteW — Today at 2:27 PM

i get 500z which is the same as the v1

Prof. 9 — Today at 2:28 PM

check the normals you fight in the story

MidniteW — Today at 2:28 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097227004593590403/image.png

just normal navi

this is free tournament https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097227383544741918/image.png

in JP GBA they aren't labeled with versions

MidniteW — Today at 2:33 PM

this would be normal navi omega in English https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097228333281976401/normajp.png

Taiyoh

MidniteW — Yesterday at 1:21 PM

same thing as bn6 i guess

dark ai

MidniteW — Today at 2:01 PM

bn4 dark soul got same deal as bn5, random cannon, minibomb, and dark sword (end of clip)

I only used z saver and var sword in this save

Misc changes

MMBN5

Dark ai

luckytyphlosion — 04/14/2023 8:12 PM

I tried ABD and it uses minibombs and cannons in between darkswords

but I only used like 15 darkswords

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096589912184201246/nerfed_abd.mp4

I used no chips up to that point

and then spammed like 20 darkswords

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 8:17 PM

airshot too huh

luckytyphlosion — 04/14/2023 8:17 PM

idk how it works with like standard chips or mega chips tho

PMD Clip

Oran isle escape

misc

MMBN6

SlashGlitch stuff

ElemTrap softlock fix

https://www.twitch.tv/symes/clip/YummyWiseHippoChefFrank-urB4jr8hUHpoWoQu?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

Stunlock fix

video

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 9:32 AM

Try reversing the order

luckytyphlosion — 04/14/2023 9:34 AM

still fixed

Gregar volcano layering issue

layering issue?

EarthDragon appear thing

https://clips.twitch.tv/AmusedLachrymoseTrollBloodTrail-Dt73qLy1sHqPrj2h

GreigaMaster — Today at 2:24 PM

The english falzer logo has less glowy eyes than the rest of the logos :BadJam~1:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097226073751687208/title_F_img_jp.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097226074083033088/title_F_img_en.png

select glitch

MegaRockEXE — 04/13/2023 12:08 PM

Is Select Chip Glitch still in 6?

GreigaMaster — 04/13/2023 12:09 PM

you cant enter the network menu at all as a link navi in 6

count controlling megaman in cutscene glitch

FitrPlne

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 10:57 PM

Why FgtrPlne -> FitrPlne though?

Rea — 04/14/2023 10:58 PM

best i can come up with for FgtrPlne is that F and G right next to each other can be read as the f slur?

luckytyphlosion — 04/14/2023 10:59 PM

fgt as well

misc

* code trader bug

Case 1 (MMBN2)

sol — Yesterday at 12:29 PM

i got two areagrab * from the normal chip trader 💀

luckytyphlosion — Yesterday at 12:38 PM

you're sure you didn't get them elsewhere

because in original BN2 you can't get * codes from trader for chips with 6 codes

sol — Yesterday at 12:39 PM

it was before the netopia arc so no image

i also got fastgauge * which was funny

luckytyphlosion — Yesterday at 12:40 PM

oh this is switch?

sol — Yesterday at 12:40 PM

yes

sol — Yesterday at 12:42 PM

not trolling image

1 2 3 4

Case 2 (MMBN6)

Sawyer Friend — Today at 5:57 AM

I got one Areagrab* so far.

sallone — Today at 5:57 AM

From trader?

Sawyer Friend — Today at 5:57 AM

Yeah.

Sawyer Friend — Today at 2:32 AM

Okay so I was mistaken, I got my AreaGrab* from the sidequest.

So atm we are up in the air whether it's easy to get via trader.

Case 3 (MMBN6)

Case 4 (MMBN2)

Rea — Today at 3:50 PM

well, that was lucky

luckytyphlosion — Today at 8:57 PM

yo @Rea do you remember how many attempts this took

is this 3 chip trader or 10 chip trader I forget

Rea — Today at 8:57 PM

3 chip

it took like 6 or 7?

Rendering issues

MidniteW

Part 1 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 8:30 PM

prolly a graphics card thing image

Part 2 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — Yesterday at 4:02 AM

cri

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096707157828833350/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096707242776084531/image.png

MegaRockEXE — Yesterday at 4:03 AM

what'd you do!?

MidniteW — Yesterday at 4:03 AM

my graphics card i guess

the navicust run is all goofed up too

Part 3 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — Yesterday at 8:31 AM

right after eagle tournament another graphic issue https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096774789017899008/image.png

destroy me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096774868743241838/image.png

Part 4 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — Yesterday at 10:27 AM

i hate it here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1096804074000760842/image.png

luckytyphlosion — Yesterday at 10:28 AM

what's ur graphic card

Prof. 9 — Yesterday at 10:29 AM

u sure your graphics card isn't melting lol

MidniteW — Yesterday at 10:29 AM

i am no sure

Part 5 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — Today at 12:23 PM cri

it's because o\f the ladder

[fixed itself once it collapses https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097195935852933180/image.png]

same reason why sky town stairs is goofed up too i guess

Part 6 (MMBN4)

MidniteW — Today at 2:50 PM

i see it’s the dimming shader this time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097232597815414894/image.png

GreigaMaster — Today at 3:00 PM

why havent you updated your drivers yet you just like the glitches or something


Dass

Part 1 (MMBN3)

Dass — Yesterday at 7:47 PM

[author's note: reply to midnite, see MidniteW Part 1 (MMBN4)] You're windowed right?

I had some graphical glitches in bn3 while in Navi Cust and the job list

And i was on windowed mode when it happened

Dass — Yesterday at 7:49 PM

let me open the game up and I'll screenshot

part 2

hmm, that might not be it (fullscreen)

(windowed)

(full screen)

Sky Town Ramp

Part 1

Gray Nine — 04/14/2023 11:12 AM

From the subreddit discord image

luckytyphlosion — 04/14/2023 11:16 AM

how

Gray Nine — 04/14/2023 11:16 AM

Nah they gave 0 context

Part 2

megabazo — Yesterday at 10:11 AM

lol

killer336

Part 1 (MMBN5)

Prof. 9 — 04/14/2023 9:20 AM

more < 1080p errors?

killer336 — 04/14/2023 9:20 AM

Pc. But perhaps

Prof. 9

Part 1 (MMBN3)

Prof. 9 — 04/14/2023 12:33 AM

was this in the original?

weird lines in the corner and on Pwr here too?

Part 2 (MMBN4)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542112919404646/1096295023282237500/image.png

Prof. 9 — 04/14/2023 12:46 AM

it only happens on sub-1080p resolution

nobody tested this? really? lol

BurnCrowSP

Part 1 (MMBN4)

BurnCrowSP — 04/14/2023 8:12 AM

By the way, I booted up BN4 and I got this issue with the in-game text

Some parts seem to be buggy or cut-off, is it because of a faulty installation or something? Or does someone have the same problem?

MidniteW — 04/14/2023 8:21 AM

Yeah the menu is buggy like that for me on the MegaMan menu too

BurnCrowSP — 04/14/2023 8:21 AM

In 5 and 6 it seems to be fine

Polderjoch

Part 1 (MMBN5)

Polderjoch — 04/14/2023 6:28 PM

just checking rq if anyone's aware if these sorts of layering issues are common on pc; 4 also has an issue in the status/email/folder screens of the top-left having discoloured bars and this is what shows up in 5 in any bbs

it's fullscreen 1080p, nvidia 2080 for reference, i've seen some other layering issues but nobody mention bbs like this yet

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 6:29 PM

can you raise the resolution?

Polderjoch — 04/14/2023 6:29 PM

nope

or rather they have no effect

1366x768 provides this

1600x900 shows this

Part 2 (MMBN4)

Polderjoch — 04/14/2023 6:32 PM

this is what i described in bn4 for reference

which does appear to be common

but it's not as egregious as whatever's happening in bbses

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 6:33 PM

right, known issue and all that's really helped is being at or above 1080p

Polderjoch — 04/14/2023 6:33 PM

yeah, the thing is that my resolution is

in the bn4 ss it's at 1600x900

1080p

i'm usually at 1080p which fixes the wonky characters but keeps the transparent box in the top-left

surrealcanine

Part 1 (MMBN4)

surrealcanine — Yesterday at 12:20 PM

Uh, wow? Did they not expect someone to play in a smaller window or something?

General collection

Misc

Netcode bugs

Megaman messages

MidniteW — Today at 8:16 AM

There’s no gyro scope for steam and ps4?

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:16 AM

dualshock 4 has gyro I think


Prof. 9 — Today at 8:17 AM

yes steam deck has gyro plus you can use controllers with gyro

very few games support it natively though

only nintendo platforms really use gyro

how do you trigger it?

you just shake the console a bunch?

DJRezzed — Today at 8:20 AM

yes

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:25 AM

doesn't do shit on steam deck

even if I set gyro as mouse or joystick

screenshot interaction works though

MidniteW — Today at 8:26 AM

Might be switch exclusive because it works like a pet lol

compatibility stuff

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:26 AM

also the background videos don't play on steam deck huh lol

they're just static

MidniteW — Today at 8:26 AM

Glitch?

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:26 AM

no it's just a compatibility layer issue

steam deck is linux and all windows games are run through a compatibility layer

Prof. 9 — Today at 8:29 AM

hmm happens on proton experimental too

red cross/geneva

part 1 (bn4 world select preview)

GreigaMaster — Today at 4:28 PM

mbn4 is in violation of the geneva convention? :BobWut~1:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097257337472962590/20230416132755_1.jpg

Gray Nine — Today at 4:30 PM

I can't find the red cross on that

Am I blind

GreigaMaster — Today at 4:35 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542261284511776/1097258887259897906/image.png

Nir777 — Today at 4:36 PM

barely looks like one tbh

Gray Nine — Today at 4:38 PM

Yeah that's a triangle

part 2 (spoooky)

Alison𓆏 — 04/14/2023 2:41 PM

Also they definitely altered the invis chip art and the virus it comes from.

I would imagine the red cross thing.

Spookies looked like this. But they're gray now in the + and the eye, and the tongue.

British Red Cross says that it's a violation of the Geneva Convention to use the red cross in the game, Prof.

Rhinne — 04/14/2023 2:46 PM

Lately they’ve been really going hard on the red addition symbol

Alison𓆏 — 04/14/2023 2:46 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094542112919404646/1096506699294191717/image.png

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 2:56 PM

Well there's your green cross

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 6:49 PM

oh shoot! they changed the sprite of the ghost too! where? how?

it's so weird!

even the chip art in-game of course

part 3 (school infirmary)

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 7:37 PM

Geneva Convention strikes again!

TODO

MRE tile finding

MegaRockEXE — 04/14/2023 10:56 PM

they kept the hard corner edge on the frame of emblem spin that was just a flip error in the tilemap before image

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