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===Talk from strange place=== | ===Talk from strange place=== | ||
Symptom: After clearing the lion statue event (Kendoman story) in Affric, you can talk to the person guarding the lion statue from under the bridge. | Symptom: After clearing the lion statue event (Kendoman story) in Affric, you can talk to the person guarding the lion statue from under the bridge. | ||
===fire soul=== | ===fire soul=== | ||
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*When you attack Shademan, who fights with a stuffed toy robot's cyber brain, Although it is dodged, if you shoot a cannon or rockbuster at the opponent at the moment it appears, you can damage it. If only Rock Buster was used at this time, how many hours would it take? | *When you attack Shademan, who fights with a stuffed toy robot's cyber brain, Although it is dodged, if you shoot a cannon or rockbuster at the opponent at the moment it appears, you can damage it. If only Rock Buster was used at this time, how many hours would it take? | ||
*Shademan is troublesome because he transforms into a bat when attacked, but if he attacks the opponent while they are on the Holy Panel, he will flinch instead of turning into a bat. It is unknown if he will take damage. | *Shademan is troublesome because he transforms into a bat when attacked, but if he attacks the opponent while they are on the Holy Panel, he will flinch instead of turning into a bat. It is unknown if he will take damage. | ||
===Flag deletion chip name bug=== | |||
https://youtu.be/N8pRh2KGkGw?t=366 chip name gets corrupted | |||
===Navicust Tutorial Softlock=== | |||
NNX — 02/14/2021 | |||
how do the navicust softlocks occur? I've never seen this in any of the games | |||
lil_fatkid — 02/14/2021 | |||
I don't think anyone has witnessed it in BN6 but people have randomly had it happen to them while mashing fast in 3-5 | |||
Don't think anyone has looked into the specifics | |||
===Navi Freezes=== | |||
Certain Navis hang for a bit on original Nintendo DS. | |||
===Bass Instant Kill=== | |||
https://twitter.com/GreigaMaster/status/1387236839614910467 | |||
When Bass uses Hellz Rolling, he stores a reference to the orb sprite object. After the attack, he frees the object but doesn't clear the reference. When he fails to use dark arm blade because there's no open panels next to the player, he frees whatever he has a reference to. At 0:29 you can see the thunderball disappear because of a failed dark arm blade. Because thunderball was freed this way the panel still thinks it has its collision data on it. When Bass goes back on that panel creating another object causes him to get hit by it every frame. | |||
===Battle AntiCheat Trigger=== | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFbguih9GsM | |||
Happened on console too on a good cart with no cheats. | |||
===Walking into BlackBomb=== | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70TFamS8P1w Cheats used? | |||
===Battle Mystery Data appear chance bug=== | |||
https://forums.therockmanexezone.com/bn4-bn5-bn6-battle-mystery-data-t5339.html | |||
As usual, this system is bugged. The game doesn't properly separate the bits when checking the spawn chance, so choosing the second reward group or higher will result in the Mystery Data always spawning. | |||
===Kawarimi/AntiMagic bugs=== | |||
row shuriken twice | |||
Set Kawarimi during battle or incorporate Kawarimi magic, take damage when the custom gauge is full, open the custom screen while Rockman is hiding and perform soul unison, return to battle and shuriken is thrown twice. There is no damage, but it warps. | |||
Similarly, Shirahadori will shoot Sonic Booms 6 times if you open the custom screen and return while firing Sonic Booms. Apparently, these traps are reset through custom screens, and it seems to be a bug that triggers again. | |||
Also, if Kawarimi is activated while Gundel Sol is firing, the shuriken will be thrown while the sunlight is still visible. However, there is no damage detection for sunlight. | |||
===Unlimited use of dark chips in Mega Man DS! (Provided by Monosan)=== | |||
In the Mega Man DS battle, which is fought one before the last Duo battle, the maximum HP does not decrease no matter how many dark chips are used. It seems to decrease if you use it in a duo battle. | |||
===Freeze: Navi Scout Danger: Small=== | |||
Symptom: Enemy Normal Navi set up Navi Scout, and if you shoot Dark Messiah Neo there, it will freeze when Forte rises and you will not be able to operate at all . | |||
Symptom 2: When the enemy normal navi sets up a navi scout and you shoot a roll there, it freezes when the heart falls on Rockman and you can not operate at all . | |||
===Run away bug=== | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tm_bFoIpWA TODO figure out if intentional or a bug. Fixed in OSS. | |||
===open custom screen after COUNTER HIT=== | |||
if the custom screen is opened while the COUNTER HIT text is displayed, it will cause the opponent's trap indicator to still be visible until the next turn begins. The ???? text will use the wrong palette while the custom screen is open. | |||
===Cust Screen Chip Buffer=== | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiVXWEFTQnk Is this a glitch? Can get "impossible" combos like dblpoint darkvulcan | |||
*Checked, only with color point and double point? | |||
===Mettaur AI nonsense=== | |||
https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleGlamorousSandstormPipeHype-RHjnAynwJmgkRaQ3 | |||
===Sandring disappears=== | |||
https://youtu.be/zZZfdikgf48?t=26 maybe just implementation detail | |||
===More poltergeist softlocks=== | |||
vs duo. I found a bug in Mega Man EXE 4 where the screen went black and did not return when poltergeist was activated the moment an ornament was destroyed. stop it | |||
https://twitter.com/moeko39/status/1443871788035829765 ([https://archive.ph/m6Nt8 archive]) | |||
===Unrelated woodman softlock=== | |||
https://twitter.com/saisin1/status/870468861505683457 ([https://archive.ph/sTNdd archive]) | |||
I want to play Mega Man EXE 4, but there is a bug that the screen disappears when I win a tournament with Woodman, so I think I'll do 5 | |||
===hp0 data fly=== | |||
https://twitter.com/t2t_yT/status/1185947819577757696 ([https://archive.ph/jEjUB archive]) | |||
When the enemy disappears outside the field and the damage of the enemy's attack becomes hp0, the game will be over and the data will fly. | |||
This is a bug that actually existed in Rockman EXE 4. | |||
===PileDriver Protoman thing=== | |||
https://twitter.com/KotiyaKanon/status/478028348250001408 ([https://archive.ph/ZYeu3 archive]) | |||
==look into more== | |||
*Burnerman heat chaser stuff | |||
weird collision https://youtu.be/AVDSUuV-HaI https://youtu.be/_cUzWlFoUTU?t=660 | |||
https://twitter.com/Tema_rin_ring/status/1512741536370663425 ([https://archive.ph/bokel archive]) ([https://i.imgur.com/OW4UnkU.mp4 video archive]) | |||
==Probably not real but listing anyway== | |||
===Running out of tourney points=== | |||
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleNetwork/comments/iknamt/help_please/ | |||
So im MMBN4 Blue Moon and i just reached the hawk tournament where i have to get points BUT i there is a huge glitch to where as i can´t get certain points i have not collected yet bcz as you can see in the image im stuck 44 the orange navi already have a cannon c i have not given her, the program in town 3 said he already gave me 3 points and the girl hiding at the back of the castle in castillo just isn´t giving me any points and just says ¨you have a lots of rival you know¨ so please any help could be appreciated. | |||
> There are more than 50 points available to find. Just keep looking. | |||
Yes there are but if u had read the description u see I said the points that could make me reach 50 or more are not available bcz they said I had already collected the points when I have not. Examples The orange Navi said I already traded The girl behind the castle just doesn't give me anything. The 1 point earnings or 2 aren't available to me bcz when I go them they just give a description then it ends instead of saying of after saying it's description it should give me a point it didn't. | |||
===Playing MMBN4 redsun on mgba when suddenly hockey...=== | |||
So im playing mmbn4 rs and im enjoying what bits i get to play that arent me running around. I have however run into an issue on mGBA where in park area when i fight Dharma1(Airhoc virus 1) whenever they toss out an airhoc the game lags horrendously each time the projectile moves to a new tile as if the sound file is damaged or not emulating properly and causing the game to try to kill itself. Any help with this would be great considering i dont see anything anywhere about it from googling. Also if this isnt the place to ask about issues with emulation of the battle network series let me know :). | |||
edit: so im using bizhawk with vba core and it works just fine now. no worries about airhoc mauling my encounters :) i had to actually transfer my save over and rename the file extension from .sav to .saveram or save.ram i forget. but yeah! Ty for all the suggestions sadly im not on a mac so open emu was out of the question it seemed. | |||
===KendoMan Scenario Bug=== | |||
During the KendoMan scenario, the player is required to react to button prompts; for unknown reasons, several players have encountered a game-breaking bug where the game will never use the 'Attack!' prompt, making it impossible to progress. | |||
===WaterGod scenario missing NPC=== | |||
Im on game 9 and im doing the part of the WaterGod, When I went to the spot where the WaterGod should be, it wasn't there? Why? Has anyone else here experienced this before? Do I have to start new game? Please reply quick! |
Latest revision as of 19:34, 5 October 2023
Bugs to test
Park Area freeze
- During the crasher story, if you talk to the bad navigator at the top of park area 3 from behind so that he doesn't notice you, it will freeze and you won't be able to operate at all . It seems that touching the enemy in front of the rail after warping in Park Area 2 will also cause a bug.
Risk of flying off screen
- Symptom: It is a condition that it is a communication battle. When the back row of the enemy area is an ice panel, use a chip that can push the enemy, such as an air shoot or a fujin racket, to push the enemy . When you unison with Soul and return to battle, the enemy will be blown away from the area and disappear from the screen. It has been confirmed that this also occurs in normal virus battles other than online battles. In addition, damage increases when attacking opponents outside the screen. Jealousy dies instantly. Note: In the case of communication battle, it will not occur unless the communication cable terminal on the blowing away side is purple .
- How to escape: If you move, you can return to the area.
- Symptom 2: At the end of the battle, leaving only one Mag Series body, if you hit Metal Fist, a charge shot of Metal Soul, it will be blown off the screen and the battle will end automatically after about 2 seconds.
- Symptom 3: If the stage is an ice panel and the Fujin racket hits Magbolt in full sync, Magbolt will be blown off the screen, and after a few seconds it will freeze and you will not be able to operate at all .
- Please be careful as data may be lost in some cases.
wrong soul
Symptom: In the case of Blue Moon, even if you fight Numberman in a tournament and get Number Soul, it seems that the symbol displayed on Mega Man's status screen is the Wood Soul symbol. What a simple mistake... [Additional Information] There have been reports of getting Blues Souls after taking Junk Souls, and getting Fire Souls after taking Guts Souls. Apparently, it seems that you can get the unobtained souls of the same tournament. Are you happy or sad?
Talk from strange place
Symptom: After clearing the lion statue event (Kendoman story) in Affric, you can talk to the person guarding the lion statue from under the bridge.
fire soul
Use Magnum in Fire Soul. If you don't press the A button, the flame on the head of Fire Soul will disappear while the cursor is moving.
flame line
With the collector's eye on, In the second week, when I went out with a pair of Bolzergia Mettor 2 in Town Area 3, If you defeat them, you'll occasionally get a Flameline 1 D. But I didn't even check it with my rucksack.
SHademan stuff
- When you attack Shademan, who fights with a stuffed toy robot's cyber brain, Although it is dodged, if you shoot a cannon or rockbuster at the opponent at the moment it appears, you can damage it. If only Rock Buster was used at this time, how many hours would it take?
- Shademan is troublesome because he transforms into a bat when attacked, but if he attacks the opponent while they are on the Holy Panel, he will flinch instead of turning into a bat. It is unknown if he will take damage.
Flag deletion chip name bug
https://youtu.be/N8pRh2KGkGw?t=366 chip name gets corrupted
NNX — 02/14/2021
how do the navicust softlocks occur? I've never seen this in any of the games
lil_fatkid — 02/14/2021
I don't think anyone has witnessed it in BN6 but people have randomly had it happen to them while mashing fast in 3-5
Don't think anyone has looked into the specifics
Certain Navis hang for a bit on original Nintendo DS.
Bass Instant Kill
https://twitter.com/GreigaMaster/status/1387236839614910467
When Bass uses Hellz Rolling, he stores a reference to the orb sprite object. After the attack, he frees the object but doesn't clear the reference. When he fails to use dark arm blade because there's no open panels next to the player, he frees whatever he has a reference to. At 0:29 you can see the thunderball disappear because of a failed dark arm blade. Because thunderball was freed this way the panel still thinks it has its collision data on it. When Bass goes back on that panel creating another object causes him to get hit by it every frame.
Battle AntiCheat Trigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFbguih9GsM
Happened on console too on a good cart with no cheats.
Walking into BlackBomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70TFamS8P1w Cheats used?
Battle Mystery Data appear chance bug
https://forums.therockmanexezone.com/bn4-bn5-bn6-battle-mystery-data-t5339.html
As usual, this system is bugged. The game doesn't properly separate the bits when checking the spawn chance, so choosing the second reward group or higher will result in the Mystery Data always spawning.
Kawarimi/AntiMagic bugs
row shuriken twice Set Kawarimi during battle or incorporate Kawarimi magic, take damage when the custom gauge is full, open the custom screen while Rockman is hiding and perform soul unison, return to battle and shuriken is thrown twice. There is no damage, but it warps. Similarly, Shirahadori will shoot Sonic Booms 6 times if you open the custom screen and return while firing Sonic Booms. Apparently, these traps are reset through custom screens, and it seems to be a bug that triggers again. Also, if Kawarimi is activated while Gundel Sol is firing, the shuriken will be thrown while the sunlight is still visible. However, there is no damage detection for sunlight.
Unlimited use of dark chips in Mega Man DS! (Provided by Monosan)
In the Mega Man DS battle, which is fought one before the last Duo battle, the maximum HP does not decrease no matter how many dark chips are used. It seems to decrease if you use it in a duo battle.
Symptom: Enemy Normal Navi set up Navi Scout, and if you shoot Dark Messiah Neo there, it will freeze when Forte rises and you will not be able to operate at all . Symptom 2: When the enemy normal navi sets up a navi scout and you shoot a roll there, it freezes when the heart falls on Rockman and you can not operate at all .
Run away bug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tm_bFoIpWA TODO figure out if intentional or a bug. Fixed in OSS.
open custom screen after COUNTER HIT
if the custom screen is opened while the COUNTER HIT text is displayed, it will cause the opponent's trap indicator to still be visible until the next turn begins. The ???? text will use the wrong palette while the custom screen is open.
Cust Screen Chip Buffer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiVXWEFTQnk Is this a glitch? Can get "impossible" combos like dblpoint darkvulcan
- Checked, only with color point and double point?
Mettaur AI nonsense
https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleGlamorousSandstormPipeHype-RHjnAynwJmgkRaQ3
Sandring disappears
https://youtu.be/zZZfdikgf48?t=26 maybe just implementation detail
More poltergeist softlocks
vs duo. I found a bug in Mega Man EXE 4 where the screen went black and did not return when poltergeist was activated the moment an ornament was destroyed. stop it
https://twitter.com/moeko39/status/1443871788035829765 (archive)
https://twitter.com/saisin1/status/870468861505683457 (archive)
I want to play Mega Man EXE 4, but there is a bug that the screen disappears when I win a tournament with Woodman, so I think I'll do 5
hp0 data fly
https://twitter.com/t2t_yT/status/1185947819577757696 (archive)
When the enemy disappears outside the field and the damage of the enemy's attack becomes hp0, the game will be over and the data will fly. This is a bug that actually existed in Rockman EXE 4.
PileDriver Protoman thing
https://twitter.com/KotiyaKanon/status/478028348250001408 (archive)
look into more
- Burnerman heat chaser stuff
weird collision https://youtu.be/AVDSUuV-HaI https://youtu.be/_cUzWlFoUTU?t=660
https://twitter.com/Tema_rin_ring/status/1512741536370663425 (archive) (video archive)
Probably not real but listing anyway
Running out of tourney points
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleNetwork/comments/iknamt/help_please/
So im MMBN4 Blue Moon and i just reached the hawk tournament where i have to get points BUT i there is a huge glitch to where as i can´t get certain points i have not collected yet bcz as you can see in the image im stuck 44 the orange navi already have a cannon c i have not given her, the program in town 3 said he already gave me 3 points and the girl hiding at the back of the castle in castillo just isn´t giving me any points and just says ¨you have a lots of rival you know¨ so please any help could be appreciated.
> There are more than 50 points available to find. Just keep looking. Yes there are but if u had read the description u see I said the points that could make me reach 50 or more are not available bcz they said I had already collected the points when I have not. Examples The orange Navi said I already traded The girl behind the castle just doesn't give me anything. The 1 point earnings or 2 aren't available to me bcz when I go them they just give a description then it ends instead of saying of after saying it's description it should give me a point it didn't.
Playing MMBN4 redsun on mgba when suddenly hockey...
So im playing mmbn4 rs and im enjoying what bits i get to play that arent me running around. I have however run into an issue on mGBA where in park area when i fight Dharma1(Airhoc virus 1) whenever they toss out an airhoc the game lags horrendously each time the projectile moves to a new tile as if the sound file is damaged or not emulating properly and causing the game to try to kill itself. Any help with this would be great considering i dont see anything anywhere about it from googling. Also if this isnt the place to ask about issues with emulation of the battle network series let me know :).
edit: so im using bizhawk with vba core and it works just fine now. no worries about airhoc mauling my encounters :) i had to actually transfer my save over and rename the file extension from .sav to .saveram or save.ram i forget. but yeah! Ty for all the suggestions sadly im not on a mac so open emu was out of the question it seemed.
KendoMan Scenario Bug
During the KendoMan scenario, the player is required to react to button prompts; for unknown reasons, several players have encountered a game-breaking bug where the game will never use the 'Attack!' prompt, making it impossible to progress.
WaterGod scenario missing NPC
Im on game 9 and im doing the part of the WaterGod, When I went to the spot where the WaterGod should be, it wasn't there? Why? Has anyone else here experienced this before? Do I have to start new game? Please reply quick!